Flip the Switch Finding Power in Chaos (E.306)

 

“I’d had it with the office. I’d had it with the day. So I just flipped the lever and everything came back to life.” – Dr. Maggie Augustyn

 

Brief Overview of the Episode

When everything in your practice stops working, what do you do? In this conversation, Dr. Chad Johnson and Regan Robertson sit down with Dr. Maggie Augustyn to talk about what it means to lead when your back is against the wall. What began as a power outage turned into an impromptu lesson in courage, problem-solving, and the mindset that separates reactive leaders from resilient ones.

This episode explores how dentists can find power in the middle of chaos and reminds us that every breakdown carries the opportunity for growth if you’re willing to stay calm and flip the switch.

What This Episode Reveals

• How small moments of courage reveal your true leadership
• Why frustration can be your greatest teacher
• The connection between mindset, clarity, and action
• What it really takes to stay grounded when everything falls apart

What You’ll Learn

• How to lead your team through unexpected challenges
• Why mindset determines how fast you recover from setbacks
• Simple ways to build emotional resilience in daily practice life
• The value of perspective when facing pressure and fatigue

If This Sounds Familiar

• You’ve faced a day when everything seemed to go wrong
• You feel constant pressure to keep production steady no matter what
• Patients expect perfection even when chaos hits behind the scenes
• You’re learning to stay calm, think clearly, and lead anyway

Next Steps

Your next challenge won’t wait until you’re ready. Prepare your mindset now.
Listen to Episode 306 of the Everyday Practices Podcast and learn how to lead with resilience when the lights go out—literally and figuratively.

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TRANSCRIPT

[00:00:00] Dr. Chad Johnson: Ladies and gentlemen, including Dr. Tom from Omaha, I shout out to you again. Thanks for listening to us. Welcome to Everyday Practices Dental podcast with the fantabulous host Reagan Robertson, co-hosted by Dr. Maggie Augustine, who recently had a monumental but not one of those kinds of monumental birthdays.

[00:00:25] Dr. Chad Johnson: But nonetheless, happy birthday, Dr. Maggie, and welcome y’all.

[00:00:30] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Thank you. I am preparing for my 50th year, so I started my 50th year and I’m pretending that I’m 50 so that when it actually hits 50, it’s not gonna spot me in the face like a ton of bricks.

[00:00:39] Dr. Chad Johnson: Dr. Maggie, please tell us about your story, uh, of suction.

[00:00:47] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: So it happened to be my day off, and so there’s no such thing as a day off where,

[00:00:51] Dr. Chad Johnson: right. Or is there? I don’t believe you already, right?

[00:00:54] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Yeah. So, so I’m just here, you know, not chilling, but working on charts and doing whatever I [00:01:00] need to be doing, and then all of a sudden the humming kind of stops and it feels, it sounds great when that happens.

[00:01:07] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Except it doesn’t because there’s patients in the chair and so there’s, I think we have seven ops and maybe there are like four of ’em were filled. Um, my partner and the hygienists were working and then the suctions don’t work. And now the hand that sucks and now the handpiece don’t work. And so what do you do?

[00:01:28] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: You call, you call your vice busters your best friend, Sandy, uh, who works for DHP, and you say, Hey, Sandy, help me out here.

[00:01:38] Dr. Chad Johnson: Mm-hmm.

[00:01:38] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Send some people over and it’s Friday, right? So what are they gonna do?

[00:01:44] Dr. Chad Johnson: Schedule you for Monday,

[00:01:45] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: schedule you for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. You, you choose right? But no, Sandy say Sandy is incredible.

[00:01:51] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: So Sandy’s like, you know what? They’re just gonna, they’re, you’re gonna be the last stop.

[00:01:55] Dr. Chad Johnson: Go, Sandy. I’ll

[00:01:56] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: be there after like three 30, [00:02:00] but you don’t wanna hold everybody here until three 30. So I’m like, you know what, I’ll just stay. I got plenty of work to do. And so I stayed and around four o’clock they’re like, we’ll be on their, on our way.

[00:02:11] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: And so they come in. And, and sure enough, everything is, uh, is down and they’re like, we, you know, they’re like looking at it and they’re like, Ugh. It’s just, it’s a power issue. Right? And so my ss are in the basement. My office used to be city Hall back in the day. So the, where the Sucs are right now used to be the little jail.

[00:02:34] Regan Robertson: Your practice is so cool because of this little feature. It’s got unique little nooks and crannies. What time of day was this, by the way, with this? So I’m, I’m here with you virtually

[00:02:44] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Uhhuh. So, so like, this is like around four o’clock. Okay. Okay. So there they’re going, there’s no, like, this is a power issue.

[00:02:51] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Like there was no power going to either your suctions or your, um. Or your compressor and [00:03:00] see this building, 1886 I bought, we bought this about 20 years ago. The practice was established in nine, uh, in 19 1980s. This practice was not built to handle, I think we have 23 computers. When we bought it, it had like maybe one or two computers in it.

[00:03:17] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: And so now you plug in A-C-D-C-T, now you plug in a two computers in every op scanners, uh, you know, Glidewell machines. You plug all that and, and things just aren’t working very well. Right. You start to think that maybe this place is possessed ’cause computers are going on and off and, and, and all kinds of stuff is happening.

[00:03:36] Regan Robertson: Well, we used to be a jail

[00:03:38] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: downstairs. There was a holding cell. Yeah. Because of snow.

[00:03:41] Regan Robertson: It is the spooky season.

[00:03:43] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: It is the spooky. So, so they’re like, you know, there’s, there’s a, there’s a problem, there’s a, and so I had another guy come in not too long ago, uh, because we were having all these electrical issues and he’s like, you need a new panel, and that’s like $20,000, right?

[00:03:57] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: So I already knew that there was [00:04:00]issues, but I did not think that the issues will going to extend down into the basement. So they’re like, listen, we don’t deal with power. Powers a ComEd thing. Power’s a power thing. Power is, you gotta get an electrician. So then like, you know, you learn a few things in life and as a dentist you kind of learn to look at balance things, right?

[00:04:24] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: It’s like how come the right doesn’t look like the left? So I’m looking, so this is like, these things are two next to each other and there’s like two boxes that hold power, um, almost. You know, like what you, there’s like a lever that turns the power on and off.

[00:04:37] Dr. Chad Johnson: Wait, hold on. Almost like there’s a lever or was there a lever?

[00:04:41] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: There is a lever.

[00:04:42] Dr. Chad Johnson: Okay.

[00:04:43] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Okay. So I’m looking at them and I’m like, one of these boxes doesn’t look the same as the other, right? And they’re like, Hmm, you’re right. And we’ve been having breaker issues, you know, because it’s just older and, and we’re [00:05:00] overusing the power. And I said, what if the problem. That somehow something got tripped and this lever, which clearly has been, there’s been problems with it upstairs.

[00:05:12] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: What if there’s a problem with the lever downstairs, right? And they’re looking at me and they’re like, lady that is you. Like, we’re not touching that. We’re not touching power. All we can tell you is that we think everything is okay, but the power is not. So like get com, ed electrician, whomever you want in there.

[00:05:32] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: And so and so then I’m like, okay, what if I just moved some of the levers up and down, right.

[00:05:43] Dr. Chad Johnson: Just try it.

[00:05:44] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Right? And they’re like, you do you right. We’re not touching this because we’re not electricians, we’re not, you know, but I’m like, I, I, I need to get back up and running. ’cause it’s been kind of a slow year for us and we, we need the production and, and, um.[00:06:00]

[00:06:00] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: They’re like, okay, you, you, you do you. This might electrocute me. I have no idea what I’m doing here, but let’s just,

[00:06:08] Dr. Chad Johnson: next thing you know, you throw the lever. No, I’m just thinking it’s funny for come, you know, it’s like it might electrocute me. So I flip the lever,

[00:06:16] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: so I flip the lever. So I flip the levers, I flip the levers both back

[00:06:21] Dr. Chad Johnson: off.

[00:06:21] Dr. Chad Johnson: And when you were doing it, when you were doing it, did you feel this premonition of, of power or. Electrocution, like, did you go, this could be it. Like what, when you did it, were you like, I’m all in, I’m gonna just push it up and either be a super success or it was a wa wa I mean, like, did that run through your mind?

[00:06:41] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: No, I, I’d had it. I’d had it with the office, I’d had it with Dylan.

[00:06:45] Dr. Chad Johnson: Screw tomorrow. Let’s just flip the lever.

[00:06:48] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Let’s just flip the lever. I wanna go home.

[00:06:52] Dr. Chad Johnson: Send me home more.

[00:06:55] Regan Robertson: I don’t wanna, you have no idea what it was really gonna do. You were just gonna do [00:07:00] it.

[00:07:00] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: I was just gonna do, I, I don’t wanna spend another $10,000.

[00:07:03] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: I wanna find out, I wanna go home. Right? Like, it’s been a long day. So I, I should have probably put gloves on. I should have like. Rubber on. I, I, I mean, like, now thinking about it, I’m like, some of the stuff I do in my life, my husband’s like, how are you still walking? So, um, so I, you know, I unplug all the machines because that was the right thing to do.

[00:07:28] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Right. Because in case something happened, the last thing I wanted to do is blow them up.

[00:07:32] Dr. Chad Johnson: Why? You’re electrocuting yourself. Yeah.

[00:07:34] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Right. So I unplug the machines and, and I turn the levers on or whatever. Th. The direction, the other direction, and then the on direction.

[00:07:46] Regan Robertson: Okay.

[00:07:47] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: And we plug this suction and the compressor back in and it worked.

[00:07:54] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Yes. So we didn’t owe a whole lot of money. We didn’t need to buy anything [00:08:00] new. We went back upstairs, we turned everything back on. We made sure everything was working. Um. But it’s just, you know, like you, you think about the resourcefulness of each one of us. In that situation, including the fact that as a dentist you have this, um, gift slash curse of looking at things and balancing them out.

[00:08:25] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Like, Hmm, your smile’s crooked. You know, like, um, my roof is crooked. Like, you, you just have all these things that are not always a blessing, uh, that in this particular case turned out to be a blessing. And so, um. Still need a, we still need a new panel. Uh, I still need to fix the electrical issues that are in my office, but at the moment, the suctions and the compressors are working just fine.

[00:08:56] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: But really, I mean, like as a den [00:09:00] is a practice owner. When, when something like that happens, it is an annoyance because. Forget production. I mean, don’t forget production, but forget production. There a moment for the moment. There’s plenty of patients that don’t understand, right. They’re like, like, that’s not my problem.

[00:09:22] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: I took a day off of work. Fix me. Right. So there are plenty of lack of compassion in this world.

[00:09:28] Dr. Chad Johnson: Sure.

[00:09:29] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Uh, that makes days like this even harder.

[00:09:33] Dr. Chad Johnson: Yeah.

[00:09:35] Regan Robertson: Well, yeah, anytime you’re gonna have, um, uh, a disruption. People don’t necessarily, you know, I think, I think everyone has had it at one point in time. ’cause it’s that, what’s the phrase?

[00:09:47] Regan Robertson: Everyone is living their own lives and has their own problems and their own things to solve. And so if they, yeah. Wanna have something done at that moment, and you are. Experiencing a disruption they might want be okay with it or they might not wanna hear, but that’s [00:10:00]just added stress to it. So if I’m understanding you correctly though, is this the like final boss level of turn it on, turn it off, turn it off, turn it on, and then see if it works again.

[00:10:08] Regan Robertson: And that saved you $10,000?

[00:10:11] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: I mean, yeah, I’m hoping. Right. So like what do I spend this $10,000 on a pair of shoes? Like, um, I’m

[00:10:19] Dr. Chad Johnson: absolutely,

[00:10:21] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: what did you say?

[00:10:22] Dr. Chad Johnson: Absolutely happy birthday to you.

[00:10:25] Regan Robertson: There’s, there is a, yeah, there’s a nice fair Gamo, I’m sure Wardrobe just waiting with their name on it for that. But the reason I wanted to make this an episode especially was because Chad and I were, you know, setting up to record a few weeks ago and you had this problem come about.

[00:10:39] Regan Robertson: And I think it’s a good topic in and of itself because as, as leaders or anyone who has any level of responsibility, you have to tackle things that you are going to be unprepared for. And. Your ability to be adaptable through that, um, speaks volume. And I’m curious, since both of you have been in practice for so long, [00:11:00] um, is it situations like this that just sort of by being thrown into it, your resilience is built?

[00:11:07] Regan Robertson: Or is it an intentional act over the past two decades where you have said, I’m, you know, I, this is how I’m building my resilience to hand to be able to handle things like this?

[00:11:19] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: It doesn’t. You’re not born with it. I mean, you, you think about a lot of the new dentists that are graduating today and just how incredibly overwhelmed they are by just the way that patients speak to them or the way that management is treating them, um, and how much they carry that and how much.

[00:11:40] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: They’re not able to see themselves for who they truly are as a result of all these realities that they find themselves in that are not entirely accurate. So I, I mean, this is not the first time that I’ve lost power or suction. Um, I, I, I’ve cried over it. You know, I’ve been so scared. [00:12:00]Probably had a panic attack over it, but this is what might.

[00:12:05] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: 20th year of owning a practice. I don’t know how many times I’d had to replace the sections or fix the sections. So yeah, the more times you do it, the more resilience and understanding you gain. And then the, the other thing that you come up with and, and, and I, and I think Chad kind of agrees with me on that, is that if you arrive at a point where you have a patient coming in and they’re throwing a fit because something happened that’s out of your control.

[00:12:33] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Suctions are down, power is down, whatever. And they’re throwing a fit and they’re, and and, and they’re really disrespectful to you or your teen. Yeah. GTFO. Like, I’m sorry. There, there’s no place for you. Here. You are not my people, and I don’t wanna work. I want nothing to do with you. So like, along with that resilience, there’s also this self-respect that you grow.

[00:12:54] Dr. Chad Johnson: Yep.

[00:12:55] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Of what are you willing to, to accept and live with?[00:13:00]

[00:13:02] Regan Robertson: There’s, yeah. And

[00:13:02] Dr. Chad Johnson: I, oh, go ahead. Go ahead Chad. No, you do it.

[00:13:06] Regan Robertson: No, I was just gonna, I was just relating as being a parent, um, there are some things that you have no choice, but you have to go through, you have to walk through the fire in order to build that resiliency. And that’s something that I’ve been teaching, um, or discussing.

[00:13:19] Regan Robertson: I can’t say teaching, but discussing with my children, um, even, you know, as they come into young adulthood and, and the, the. I, I, I often wanna protect them. And I think about our, you know, our teams as well. Like, there’s certain things you have to let them go through it, as painful as it is. Otherwise they don’t get to build those types of muscles.

[00:13:39] Regan Robertson: And when I think about myself and some of the challenges that I’ve had that have been particularly painful, but now that I’m on the other side of it, I’m like, man, now I do get to turn around and help others that, that haven’t experienced this yet. And I do feel, you know, wiser and better because of it.

[00:13:56] Dr. Chad Johnson: It’s good to have colleagues to be able to, um, [00:14:00] complain to and bounce ideas off of and get little victory points from that because chain of command, you don’t necessarily want to complain down. Um, and I’m not putting the position of the patient down, but they don’t understand on the same level, you know, so complaining to them about, well, let me tell you why this is a pro.

[00:14:20] Dr. Chad Johnson: They don’t care and nor should they really, I mean, that’s okay. Um. But yeah, to answer your question, Reagan, I think it is little successes that add up over time. So you might not be able to, um, know what to do until this happens. And it might be a 14,000 foot. Mountain that you’re climbing, uh, that day symbolically speaking, like throwing that lever and you know, figuring out the fortitude of what to do with that.

[00:14:50] Dr. Chad Johnson: But you’ve done thousand foothills and then you’ve done 5,000 foothills and you’ve done 10,000 foot mountains and stuff like that. So when, [00:15:00] when someone asks. I know before, you know, like when someone ask has asked, have you done four implants on a patient before? And when the answer was no, it’s just like, but I’ve done two, and I suppose I’ve done two enough that like, why would four be any different than than two?

[00:15:19] Dr. Chad Johnson: Or when someone says, have you ever pulled a wisdom tooth before? And you know, is like, no, but I’ve, I’ve pulled. Other teeth before. This one’s just behind that one. Why is that a, like, I don’t know if I’m understanding the question. ’cause it it like it specifically that wisdom tooth. No, but I’ve pulled other teeth before.

[00:15:39] Dr. Chad Johnson: Or have you ever dug out an impacted, you know, canine before? No, but I’ve done an impacted wisdom tooth before. So like why is that a big deal? So you take those 2000, are

[00:15:49] Regan Robertson: you, do patients ask you those questions They have before? Well, I’m laughing because when you and a very rare Dominican Republic and uh, uh, doing the mission work, I asked you how, so how many teeth have you [00:16:00] extracted?

[00:16:01] Regan Robertson: And you said something crazy like You what? Yes. I stopped

[00:16:04] Dr. Chad Johnson: counting

[00:16:04] Regan Robertson: after a thousand or 10 solicitors thinking. I was like, what?

[00:16:07] Dr. Chad Johnson: Yeah, like after that it just, it didn’t seem important to me anymore. And so I was just like, I don’t know.

[00:16:13] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: It’s like Charlie Sheen, the amount of women he’s been with,

[00:16:16] Dr. Chad Johnson: uh, uncountable, but that just come up.

[00:16:20] Dr. Chad Johnson: What was his saying? Winning. Winning, um,

[00:16:25] Regan Robertson: tiger blood.

[00:16:27] Dr. Chad Johnson: So, yeah, I, I just, does that resonate with you guys? You know, that basically, you know, little victories add up, but yes, there was a point where it’s just like, have I done, you know, four implants on the same arch? It’s like, oh no, but I’ve done four implants on the, you know, different arches and this is just kind of at the same time, like, why is this So I’ve done, that might be a 15,000 foot.

[00:16:51] Dr. Chad Johnson: Mountain to climb, but it’s like, but I’ve done 14,000, so this is gonna be a new altitude. But it’s still, it’s, it’s, it’s achievable. [00:17:00] I don’t know. I’ve thought that before. It was my first year outta school when I was. You know, pulling some wisdom teeth, and I don’t think we had any experience with it in school, but I started my own practice right outta school, and I wanted the money.

[00:17:12] Dr. Chad Johnson: I, you know, so like when someone had a wisdom tooth to pull, heck yeah, I’ll do it. I like pulling teeth, you know? Well, have you ever pulled a, an impacted wisdom tooth? I’m like, I don’t know, but let’s give it a try. You know, like, uh, and then it’s like, yes, but this one, that one that you did was soft tissue impaction.

[00:17:27] Dr. Chad Johnson: This one’s full bony impaction and this one. And it’s like, okay, so I have to dig deeper. Let’s get it out, you know, like someone’s gotta do it right. And I know that’s, there’s some naivety and

[00:17:38] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: so let’s not remove this. Okay? Let’s not remove the fact that you are a lifelong learner and you don’t just go and pick up a scale pool and you’re like, huh, I think I’m gonna drill here.

[00:17:47] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Right? Like, I mean that’s, let’s put that in perspective.

[00:17:50] Dr. Chad Johnson: Context. Sure. But as much as though if someone says, have you climbed an 18,000 foot mountain? And you’re like, no, but I’ve done. I’ve done 40 [00:18:00] 16,000 foot mountains. It’s like, what? So there’s something to be said about those last 2000 feet. Like, you know, I don’t know about the preparation to that, but it’s just like, surely there’s a little bit of a difference.

[00:18:11] Dr. Chad Johnson: And it’d be like someone saying, you know, like, have you ever ridden your bike 10 miles? Oh yeah. Well I could ride at a hundred miles. It’s just like doing 10. 10 mile rides. It’s like, not exactly, but you could do it. You just need to build up to it. And you know, if you’ve done 90 miles, you can do a hundred.

[00:18:26] Dr. Chad Johnson: And if you’ve done a hundred, you can do 102. You know, like, so all, all I’m saying is, you know, as you scale, the little victories that you’ve had in the past help you to have the resilience for this new novel idea of what you’re gonna accomplish, but you’re gonna accomplish it with the same skillset that you had, even though it’s novel.

[00:18:47] Dr. Chad Johnson: That’s all.

[00:18:48] Regan Robertson: So what I’m hearing you say is a lot of this has to do with mindset and where you’re finding

[00:18:53] Dr. Chad Johnson: correct. That’s it.

[00:18:56] Regan Robertson: I think mindset

[00:18:57] Dr. Chad Johnson: to me.

[00:18:58] Regan Robertson: What kind of percentage do you think [00:19:00]mindset takes when it, when it comes to, you know, your overall like, satisfaction within any given day? Because I mean, you, you know what it, I know what it feels like to wake up in a bad mood and, and I work really, really hard at making sure that I switch that around if I’m gonna wake up in a bad mood.

[00:19:17] Regan Robertson: I mean, you can always allow your emotions to be there. You don’t wanna deny your emotions, you wanna let it flow through you. But, um. But for the hardest points in my time or the most annoying times in my life, I mean, your mindset’s gonna make or break you. I don’t know. Maggie, what was your mindset?

[00:19:32] Regan Robertson: Because you said you were annoyed, like you said, you really were annoyed and you wanted to go home. Yeah. Um, do you think your, you got through it?

[00:19:40] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Yeah, I mean, annoyance doesn’t bother me. Like there’s other emotions that I don’t, I find far more uncomfortable. Like fear. Um, fear is very difficult for me. I, there’s, I’m both fearful and fearless all at the same time.

[00:19:53] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: Right. Being a parent, you, you kind of end up being both. Um, that’s a book title right there, but fearless, [00:20:00] um, do it your word. The annoyance didn’t take over. The annoys. It is just, I mean, like an noise is just always there. It’s like a fly, you know, like, it’s like, okay, go away like a mosquito. But, um, but, but, but on the mindset question, I think it’s my belief and it’s, I mean, I’ve led my life how I’ve led my life, and I’ve always been very honest about the difficulties and the challenges, especially when it came to my mental illness.

[00:20:27] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: I will. I will tell you, I think that the way that I look at the world in any given moment has, this is me, okay, this is me. This is my life. It’s about 95% of my interpretation of reality,

[00:20:49] Regan Robertson: our interpretation of reality.

[00:20:56] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: What do you see? What do you choose to see?

[00:20:59] Regan Robertson: Mm-hmm. [00:21:00]

[00:21:00] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: There’s this drawing that I made when I was in France a long time ago, and it’s two people and they’re surrounded by, um, so it, it was a sculpture that I was drawing, and they’re surrounded by, uh, barbed wire, right? And then I drew that and it’s, and it’s these two people and there’s like this thing that goes around them.

[00:21:19] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: What do you see? Do you see two lovers celestial connected, right? Or do you see two lovers around with the barbed wire because they’re not supposed to be together because it’s so wrong? I mean, true. It’s, it’s, it is what is your interpretation of life that will unfold and allow you to feel the emotion of the next moment?

[00:21:51] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: I have some

[00:21:51] Regan Robertson: pop culture to insert here. Let’s do it. Uh, I’m watching Dancing With the Stars, so that’s like our, our show right now. [00:22:00] And specifically because Corey Feldman was gonna be on it. And I, you know, am an eighties kid and I love eighties everything. So I, I was excited to see Corey on this show and he’s quite controversial, which I found out.

[00:22:11] Regan Robertson: I didn’t really know that. So we, we watch all of these dancers and it is. Hard. I mean, the, the, the fact that these people, like a lot of them look like right out of the gate that, that they are already professional dancers, but you know, they’re, they’re. Rehearsing for hours a day, completely out of their comfort zone.

[00:22:28] Regan Robertson: It’s physically demanding. And the older I get, the more I appreciate what physically demanding really feels like. Uh, you know, like we’ve got Robert Irwin, who is, you know, Steve Irwin, the Crocodile Hunter’s son on, and he’s like 20, 20 something, 21 years old. So of course, you know, he’s got this huge stamina.

[00:22:44] Regan Robertson: And then, and then there’s Corey, who’s in his fifties and the first week he. He was, um, pretty stiff threw in some Michael Jackson moves, even though it was a ballroom, you know, ’cause that’s what he does.

[00:22:56] Dr. Chad Johnson: His signature,

[00:22:57] Regan Robertson: his signature moves, and he got a pretty bad [00:23:00] score. I don’t know if it was the worst score, maybe it was like the worst score, but it was pretty bad.

[00:23:03] Regan Robertson: I didn’t think much of it. And then the next week. He, he dances and he’s eliminated. And what came after that is a really powerful demonstration on mindset. Uh, so it’s, the reports are coming out now. Let’s verify, right? So, so listener, if you, if you’re into this kind of gossip, do do your own research. I say none of this is factual, but what I have heard is that.

[00:23:29] Regan Robertson: His response to it after the first week in getting a really low score allegedly, is that he said, you know, I, I really got a low score and I don’t think it was fair that I got such, I, I can’t possibly make up the difference between this week and next week to get enough votes to be able. To, to, to come back and, and then the additional, you know, rumor next to it was, okay, well, I’m just not gonna show up to very many practices.

[00:23:58] Regan Robertson: Next week I’m gonna give my [00:24:00] coach who actually won Dancing with the Stars the previous season, I’m gonna, you know, she’s wanting me to be, to be in the dance studio X amount of hours. I don’t really feel like I need to be there Anyway, I think it’ll be fine. And so then he shows up and he gives, you know, a, a less than stellar performance and then he’s eliminated and listening to that, um, regardless of whether or not that’s really true doesn’t really matter for the illustration purposes of this.

[00:24:27] Regan Robertson: Your mindset can really make or break how you look, uh, at an outcome that. It could go wildly two different ways. I think the other way to take that was, okay, I’m on the bottom. ’cause my personality, especially around something that’s fun and competitive, your livelihood isn’t tied to it. I would be so.

[00:24:45] Regan Robertson: Motivated. I would be like, I will prove to you that I am going to be better. I will, I’ll, I’ll hop up on the ibuprofen. I don’t know. I’ll ice myself. I will get myself through the red light in the sauna. I will do everything I can to prove that [00:25:00] I deserve to be here. So you can go at it with that and, and I think the moral of the story is bad things are going to happen to good people.

[00:25:09] Regan Robertson: If there’s nothing you can do to stop it, an outcome that you didn’t desire is going to happen regardless of that. But what you do with it is up to you. You can either let it tank you and you will get the outcome of, of. You get the consequence of taking that action or you can spin it a different way.

[00:25:25] Regan Robertson: And so in a, you know, positive way, Maggie, when I hear your story, you’re like, I wanted to go home. And that actually gave you, it gave you this like millisecond of courage. And I think that’s where it’s fun to be fearful, but fearless. You kind of said F it. Like, I wanna go home. I’m just gonna go do this.

[00:25:41] Regan Robertson: Thank you for still being here, Maggie, and not getting electrocuted and it worked in your favor. And how many times in life do we do something and we give up when we are so close? We’re so close to being there and it looks like we’re, it looks like we’re the exact opposite. It looks like we’re [00:26:00] that close to failing, when actually in actuality we’re that close from succeeding.

[00:26:06] Dr. Chad Johnson: I, I heard a guy one time, just give a, a quick analogy and then we can wrap up. But, um, he said that there were two salt crystal friends. And the one salt crystal was saying to the other salt crystal, you know, like, oh shoot, look, they’re getting out some chili. And that chili is always bland. And they set the chili down and then they grab the salt shaker and they go, oh, no, but friend.

[00:26:31] Dr. Chad Johnson: This is it. Uh, we’re gonna get, uh, disintegrated into the chili. This is no good. And the salt crystal friend said, yeah, but when I hit that chili, that will never taste the same. And it was cool that like one salt crystal was looking at it as the death and the other was. Still the same. It’s like, yeah. I mean, I guess that’s the end of us, but I’m going to [00:27:00] make a difference.

[00:27:00] Regan Robertson: Yeah.

[00:27:01] Dr. Chad Johnson: To that story story, rb,

[00:27:02] Regan Robertson: it’s a, it’s, it’s a rer,

[00:27:04] Dr. Chad Johnson: right? Wow.

[00:27:06] Regan Robertson: Yeah.

[00:27:08] Dr. Chad Johnson: So listeners find some resilience and some fortitude to go through with your decisions. If you need someone to run a fun idea by, why don’t you write any of us? Uh, if it’s on Facebook or anything like that, you can find this podcast, uh, advertised and whatnot.

[00:27:27] Dr. Chad Johnson: It would beReagan@productivedentist.com or chad@productivedentist.com. And I’m not sure if Maggie at productive dentist com. I mean it’s just,

[00:27:37] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: uh, Dr. Maggie DR maggie@myhappycheese.com.

[00:27:41] Dr. Chad Johnson: There you go. People write us in, tell us what you think about, uh, your scenario that you’re either overcoming, have overcome, or you’re challenged to think about how to hit that new 18,000 foot, um, mountain.

[00:27:56] Dr. Chad Johnson: And you

[00:27:57] Dr. Maggie Augustyn: know what? Let’s, let’s get you on the podcast and talk about it. That’s

[00:27:59] Dr. Chad Johnson: [00:28:00] right. That’s, that would be the next few fee. But I was, I was thinking about that. If, if you’re right, we’ll talk to you about maybe coming on with us. Everyone. Hope you had a great episode listening in. Have a great day.