PDA Conference March 13 -15, 2025 in Frisco, Texas

Episode 125 – Ignorance and Arrogance in Dentistry

I’ve never understood people who don’t want help. If you’re struggling with something, it makes sense to reach out to people who have successfully handled what you’re having problems with.~Dr. Bruce B. Baird

There’s nothing wrong with being ignorant. All it means is that you don’t know everything. 

The arrogance, well that’s another problem. Being arrogant means you don’t want to listen to anyone else. In combination, arrogance and ignorance ruin more dental practices than just about anything else. 

The problem is there are a lot of us out there who think that because we’re dentists we know everything or can figure it out for ourselves because we’re intelligent people.

If we were just talking about you, well you’re entitled to make those choices for yourself but when you have a business, team, and patients to take care of, it’s not just you your decisions affect. There’s much more at stake.

In my career, I reached out to many successful people for help and here’s the thing, by listening to them I expanded my thought process and I got better results. 

I’m committed to helping independent dentists like you reduce your stress and build a business that allows you to do the work you love. So I challenge you to join me today for a discussion about:

  • The cost of being arrogant 
  • What mindset you should have when viewing your dental practice
  • Ideas for finding the right mentors and coaches

Never miss an episode! Subscribe on iTunes & Spotify. Visit us at http://www.productivedentistpodcast.com

EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Dr. Bruce Baird
Hi, this is Dr. Bruce Baird with the Productive Dentist Podcast the first thing I’d like to do is I’d like to read a message that a Google review that we got from Dr. Brad moss at the productive dentist Academy and I just love to share it. Brad said I dragged my feet for a number of years and hired a consultant because I didn’t want to hear about all the unethical tactics that I thought you would have to employ to achieve the kind of results that you hear about. To my pleasant surprise, PDA philosophy lined up with mine in many regards, especially with the foundational goal of taking great care of the patient.

We’ve been working with PDA for just over two years and I hate to think how we would have weathered these crazy times without them. I initially thought that having a coach would be great, for they could help me change my team but in reality, it was me who needed the work. Our coaches helped me and the team stay focused on the business metrics of matter most which in turn has helped us take even better care of our patients. Working with PDA has been one of the best investments I’ve made in the last 31 years in dentistry. My only regret is that I didn’t hire them. 15 years ago, for what a nice compliment. Thanks so much, Brad and, you know, we get, we get comments like this all the time and it’s, you know, I don’t know what the deal is, with people not wanting to get help, you know, ignorance and arrogance, or a


they’re a terrible combination. You know you can’t explain to somebody who already knows, thinks that they know everything, you can’t explain even the simplest concepts and so what I try to help doctors feel comfortable with, is that you know, we’re just like you, I mean, we’re, you know, we have dental practices, we’re working in these practices, things happen, you know, the good days, the bad days, and, you know, we reach those same levels of frustration, but it’s what we’ve done to solve those issues, what we’ve done to change those issues and, and I really think that you know, in hiring, and hiring a coach or into me, it’s not hiring a coach and it’s something I’ve talked about as a Productive Dentist Academy for a long time.


I’m, I don’t want to just hire some consultant who happens to have been working in a dental office at some point in their career and they bring in everything that they knew in that one situation, that office they worked in for 25 years and I’ve had, I’ve had nine different consultants in my practice over the years and what I’ll say is, I’ve had great consultants, they all have something to add, they all have something to, you know, to give us, give us some new ideas and new thoughts.

You know, I’ve had, as I say, nine different consulting groups come into my practice and again, it was usually one person’s idea or one person’s thought process and I always wanted Productive Dentist Academy coaching, to be something that was more like a football team and I’ve talked about this before but really, when you hire PDA, you’re not just hiring one coach, you might have one that comes in the office and works with you, personally but we also bring in everybody on our team. So it’s kind of like that football team, you have a quarterback coach, you have a defensive line coach, and offensive line-wide receivers, linebackers secondary and so we bring 567 People who’ve all had massive amounts of experience over the last 18 years, working within the environment, productive dentist Academy, what’s so exciting is the results that we see. Because every practice, you know, when you when we come into practice and start working with you, all of a sudden, we say, you know, this is better off for Carol, or this is this would you know, Callie would be perfect for this, or this is the perfect situation for, you know, for whoever that has had the experience. So where you’re having the issues where you’re having the problems, we actually bring in the specialists to work with you on that.


Having said that, you know, that’s something that I’ve always wanted, we’ve gotten away from it at different times but we’re now probably more focused on that than anything else. He is helping you from, from front to back from the OSA womb to tomb from, you know, from the beginning of your practice to the end of your practice and we work with lots of young dentists, we work with dentists and mid-career and we’ve worked with lots that my age, you know, slowing down trying to decide what they want to do for the rest of their life and where they want to if they want to continue practicing if they want to sell their practice and get the best value forward.

Those are all the things that we kind of pride ourselves in giving people options that they didn’t know that they already had I talked about that. Are you ready to sell your practice? In the last couple of podcasts? But again, you know, do you know your EBITA? And who’s figured it for you? Is it the DSO that’s coming to buy your practice? Or is it somebody who knows, knows you, and knows your business and gives you an accurate reading on that? So what to me is again goes back to, you know, arrogance and ignorance. It’s like, ignorance is not a bad beat ignorance, is not a bad word. It just means you don’t know but being arrogant means you don’t want to listen to anybody else and I just found it through my career that I listened to just about anybody. I want to find, I don’t want to reinvent the wheel. Although I’ve reinvented the wheel multiple times. I don’t want to. What I want to do is find somebody who has done things that I would like to do and then look to them as a mentor looks to them. am as somebody I can ask questions to. It’s not about me trying to figure it out all by myself, which there are a lot of dentists out there, I must say,


probably a majority, that figure, it’s, you know, I’m a dentist, and I went through all this schooling and, you know, I should be able to do this on my own. Well, it’s different when you’re running a business, when you have a team when you have patience, and communication and clinical skills and I mean, you go down the list over and over again and again, I’m always wanted to find somebody. I mean, I can, I can name you to know, the people I’ve named in the past the John Coisas, who clinically I want to hear, I want to hear everything he has to say, you know, the mike Pico. So I want to hear what Mike has to say, I want to hear what Carl Mitch had to say when it came to implants.

I wanted to hear, you know, what Pat Allen was saying about connective tissue grafts why? Because once I, once I listened to them, and once I went to their course, I never thought about that particular procedure the same way ever again and so it allowed me to expand my business, it allowed me to expand my thought process, you know, in business, early on with Paul homily listening to Paul talk about, you know, the big implant cases, the doc’s weren’t making the kind of money they thought they were making because of overhead. You know, there’s just so many people, great, Stanley talking about business and investments and I kind of go down that list and these are people who I listened to very carefully formulated my idea of their concept, and how it made the best how it fit my practice the best and when I finally put it in play in the office, it was usually much smoother.


If I had gone through that process, go through that thought process, going through that, talking with other dentists who have done the same thing that I’m attempting to do to, to get, you know, better clinical results, to get a better team to get you to know, and I just see the same folks out there, struggling over and over again every year. Because they’re, you know, they listen, but they don’t put that knowledge to work. You know, and, you know, I always look at things, the 8020 rule, only 20% of the dentists out there are going to reach your potential. Hope you’re one of the 20% of 80% who are going to, you know, get the Tony Robbins tapes and never listen to him. They’re going to get them, you know, the using other people’s money for real estate and never buying real estate. That’s just human nature. That’s what happens but the 20 percenters are the ones who get committed to improvement. They get committed to getting to know what’s, what’s the best thing to do and, you know, David Phelps, and other great guides, dentists guy who came through PDA, who was teaching dentists, financial freedom through real estate. So and I’m, you know, I’ve worked with days, I want to constantly improve, I got the opportunity for summer, my, my,


my chairside, for 20-plus years, I got a chance to go to her son’s graduation party. He just graduated from high school and they asked me to say a few words and the one thing that I said, that I wanted the kids to listen to, and I really want everyone to listen to, is you get out of school, you think, Oh, well my learnings over and I’m done, I can finally go to work and make money. Well, you can, but why not? Why not understand that life? Is? Is a learning experience. From the day you’re born until the day you’re you’re gone? Yeah, I’m totally committed to learning new things. I’ve said this before but Cynthia, my wife said, Why are you watching those tapes on printing and all this stuff?

You know, Cory was doing these tapes and I said, Well, honey, you know, I’m really interested in this. She goes, why you’re with you know, you’re retiring. I said, I’m dying and I’ve just, I want to know, I want to know what’s out there and I’m challenging you if you’re listening to this podcast, to step back and find out where you’re headed. You know, what things do you want to accomplish? That goes back to goal setting. We’ve talked about that multiple times, go back and read some of those podcasts that we’ve done but where do you want to go? Find people who’ve already gone there? Get to know them. One thing I’ve found to be true is that dentists who have become very successful in many different areas in dentistry, from business to clinical Well to crop across the board are more than happy to help them help and share their experiences.

You know, the mark Costas, you know, the Gary Takacs, you know, these guys all share what they know, and what I’m going to implore each one of you to do is reach out, you know, get get get a team behind you. It’s not it takes the pressure off of you, no question about that, it takes the pressure off of you, doesn’t add pressure to you and if it if having a consultant or coach, or whatever you want to call it is adding pressure to you, then you got the wrong coach, you need to find one that is empowering you, that is lifting you up, lifting your team up, giving you the information that you need to create your best life and your best practice. So those are my thoughts for today.

You know, I just heard those two words, arrogance and ignorance and you know, I’m ignorant about a lot of things and if I actually become aware of it, I want to find somebody who’s really good at it and listen to him but it’s that arrogant. It’s an arrogant Doctor mentality that really gets a lot of us in trouble and so think, think hard, and hopefully, find, find the right mentors, find the right coaches, and you’re going to find yourself in a very successful business and your life is going to be more fun, you’re going to be more successful, your family, you’re gonna be able to take care of them and this is something that doesn’t try to do it all on your own. So remember arrogance and ignorance. All right, talk to you next time.


Thank you for joining me for this episode of the Productive Dentist Podcast. If you found this episode helpful, make sure you subscribe and pass it along to a friend. Give us a like on iTunes and Spotify or drop me an email at podcast@productivedentist.com don’t forget to check out other podcasts from the Productive Dentist Academy at productivedentistspodcast.com. Join me again next week for another episode of the Productive Dentist Podcast.

Have a great experience with PDA recently?

Leave a Review

Download PDA Doctor Case Studies

Dr. Devin Giron
PDA Member Since 2018
Vida Dental Studio
Santa Fe, NM

Dr. Devin Giron's Experience with Productive Dentist Academy

Download Case Study

Dr. Anthony Baird
PDA Member Since 2019
Millcreek Family Dental
Bountiful, UT

Dr. Anthony Baird's Experience with Productive Dentist Academy

Download Case Study

Dr. Jon Ehlers
PDA Member Since 2022
Tiger Family Dental
Sedalia, MO

Dr. Jon Ehlers's Experience with Productive Dentist Academy

Download Case Study

Dr. Maggie Augustyn
PDA Member Since 2020
Happy Tooth
Elmhurst, IL

Dr. Maggie Augustyn's Experience with Productive Dentist Academy

Download Case Study

Drs. Clint & Kelly Euse
PDA Members Since 2008
Advanced Dentistry by Design
Carson City, NV

Dr. Drs. Clint & Kelly Euse's Experience with Productive Dentist Academy

Download Case Study

Menu
Need help?
Accessibility
Accessibility Options
Accessibility On Our Website

We are committed to continuously improving access to our goods and services by individuals with disabilities. If you are unable to use any aspect of this website because of a disability, please call (800) 757-6077 and we will provide you with prompt personalized assistance.

If you have trouble seeing web pages, the US Social Security Administration offers these tips for optimizing your computer and browser to improve your online experience.

If you are looking for mouse and keyboard alternatives, speech recognition software such as Dragon Naturally Speaking may help you navigate web pages and online services. This software allows the user to move focus around a web page or application screen through voice controls.

If you are deaf or hard of hearing, there are several accessibility features available to you.

Closed Captioning
Closed captioning provides a transcript for the audio track of a video presentation that is synchronized with the video and audio tracks. Captions are generally visually displayed over the video, which benefits people who are deaf and hard of hearing, and anyone who cannot hear the audio due to noisy environments. Most of our website’s video content includes automated captions. Learn how to turn captioning on and off in YouTube.

Volume Controls
Your computer, tablet, or mobile device has volume control features. Each video and audio service has its own additional volume controls. Try adjusting both your device’s volume controls and your media players’ volume controls to optimize your listening experience.

Read More About Accessibility and Why It Matters

Appointments
Need help?

Oops! We could not locate your form.

Do not include sensitive personal, financial, or other confidential information (Social Security, account number, login, passwords, etc.). This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

Helpful Resources

Below are links you may find helpful when scheduling an appointment with us.

Notifications
Podcasts

Self Reflection & the Dental Practice, Part 1 (E.239)

“There is nothing more heartbreaking than to witness somebody get...

Self Reflection & the Dental Practice, Part 1 (E.239) (featured image)

Handling Difficult Patient Encounters (E.265)

“Get rid of the need to be right.” ~Dr. Paul Etchison Ever had a...

Handling Difficult Patient Encounters (E.265) (featured image)

Preparing for the Sale of Your Dental Practice (E.142)

“Ninety-five percent of dentists cannot retire and maintain their...

Preparing for the Sale of Your Dental Practice (E.142) (featured image)
In the Press

I’ve Arrived: From $100 in the Bank to Generational Wealth in Less Than 3 Years.

from Dental Entrepreneur – Winter 2023 By Dr. Maggie Augustyn...

I’ve Arrived: From $100 in the Bank to Generational Wealth in Less Than 3 Years. (featured image)
From Our Blog

Why Every Dental Team Should Attend a Dental Workshop

In the fast-evolving dental profession of today, staying competitive...

Why Every Dental Team Should Attend a Dental Workshop (featured image)
Follow Us On Social Media

Facebook

Stay informed on updates and upcoming events from our office.

LinkedIn

Connect and learn more about Productive Dentist Academy.

YouTube

Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

Instagram

View fun photos and follow our team on Instagram.

Your Privacy
Privacy Policy

This privacy notice discloses our privacy practices and the use of Google Analytics 4(GA4), an analytic advertising feature. This privacy notice applies solely to information collected by this website and the GA4 platform. It will notify you of the following:

  1. What personally identifiable information is collected from you through the website and GA4 platform, how it is used, and with whom it may be shared.
  2. The choices available to you regarding the use of your data.
  3. The security procedures in place to protect the misuse of your information.
  4. How you can correct any inaccuracies in the information.

Information Collection, Use, and Sharing

We only have access to/collect information that you voluntarily give us via email or other direct contact from you. We will not sell or rent this information to anyone.

We will use your information to respond to you, regarding the reason you contacted us. Unless you ask us not to, we may contact you via email in the future to tell you about specials, new products or services, or changes to this privacy policy.

While Productive Dentist Academy is the primary data controller, Google, in the context of providing Google Analytics service, acts as a data processor. We use Google Analytics 4, a widely recognized web analytics service provided by Google, Inc., to track user interactions and gather data for advertising purposes. As a third-party vendor, Google Analytics operates independently and maintains its own privacy policy, which can be found at https://policies.google.com/privacy. We carefully select our third-party vendors for their commitment to user privacy and adherence to data protection standards. As part of our ongoing commitment to your privacy, we implement measures to ensure that services like GA4 comply with our high standards of data protection.

GA4 collects certain personally identifiable information from you as you interact with our website. This information includes but is not limited to your device ID, IP address, and geographic location. The information collected through GA4 is used to analyze user behavior, optimize our website’s performance, and tailor our content to better serve your needs. This data is compiled and anonymized, ensuring that it cannot be linked back to individual users.

Please note that GA4 may share the information collected with Google and other third-party service providers to enable data processing and reporting on website usage. However, we will not sell, rent, or share your information, especially your personally identifiable information, with any third party outside of our organization.

Your Access to and Control Over Information

You have certain rights regarding the data collected by GA4. You have the right to do the following at any time by contacting us via the email address or phone number given on our website:

  • See what data we have about you, if any.
  • Have us delete any data we have about you.
  • Express any concern you have about our use of your data.

In addition to opting out of any future communications from us at any time, you may also opt out of the GA4 feature if you so choose. You can opt out of the GA4 Advertising Features we use through Ads Settings, Ad Settings for mobile apps, or through the NAI’s. This link points to Google Analytics’ currently available opt-outs for the web https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout/ 

Security

We take precautions to protect your information. When you submit sensitive information via the website, your information is protected both online and offline. GA4 also follows industry best practices to protect your data both online and offline.

To ensure data protection while we are using GA4, we are implementing additional security measures that include and are not limited to:

  • limiting data access, 
  • using secure protocols, 
  • managing data sharing with Google

Wherever we collect sensitive information (such as credit card data), that information is encrypted and transmitted to us in a secure way. You can verify this by looking for a lock icon in the address bar and looking for “https” at the beginning of the address of the Web page.

While we use encryption to protect sensitive information transmitted online, we also protect your information offline. Only employees who need the information to perform a specific job (for example, billing or customer service) are granted access to personally identifiable information. The computers/servers in which we store personally identifiable information are kept in a secure environment.

Contact Us

If you have any concerns about the use of GA4 or believe that we are not abiding by this privacy policy, please contact us immediately. We are committed to addressing any privacy-related issues promptly and transparently.

By using our website and consenting to the use of GA4, you acknowledge and agree to the data collection and processing practices described in this notice. For more information about GA4 and its privacy practices, please review Google’s Privacy Policy on this link https://policies.google.com/privacy.

If you feel that we are not abiding by this privacy policy, you should contact us immediately.

Read More About Our Privacy Policy and Why It Matters

Terms of Service
Terms of Service

Entering this site or the links accessible through this site, you agree to be bound by this agreement. The information and the resources contained on and accessible through this site are made available by Productive Dentist Academy and/or its suppliers and vendors, and are subject to your agreement to their terms and conditions.

All contents copyright (c) Productive Dentist Academy

All rights reserved, Productive Dentist Academy makes this website available to all users for the sole purpose of providing educational information on health-related issues.

The accuracy of website, information, and resources identified are not warranted or guaranteed, or intended to be a substitute for professional health advice, to contradict health advice given, or for health care of any kind.

Your use of this website indicates your agreement to be bound by the Terms of Use and you expressly agree to be bound to the foregoing terms and conditions.

All materials on this website, including the site’s design, layout, and organization, are owned and copyrighted by Productive Dentist Academy, or its suppliers or vendors, and are protected by U.S. and international copyrights.

Material on this site may be used for personal use only. Commercial use of any sort is strictly prohibited.

Use of Resources & Information
This site may not be used as a supplement or alternative for health care, and is not intended and does not warrant or guarantee the quality or quantity of any services of any of the advertisers identified; further, the information provided is merely for educational purposes, and its accuracy is not guaranteed. Do not use this site as a substitute for health care. Please consult with your doctor or other health care provider regarding any health questions you may have. This site may not be used for health diagnosis or treatment. Do not use this site to disregard any health advice, nor to delay seeking health advice, because of something you read or see in this site.

You understand and agree that neither Productive Dentist Academy nor its suppliers or vendors or linked domain names are responsible or liable for any claim, loss, or damage of any kind, directly or indirectly resulting from your use of this site or the information or the resources contained on or accessible through it.

Productive Dentist Academy expressly disclaims any implied warranty or representation about the information or accuracy, relevance, completeness, timeliness or appropriateness for any particular purpose of any kind. Your use of this site is also subject to all additional disclaimers that may appear throughout the site.

Other Internet Sites Links
This site also includes links to other internet sites created and maintained by Productive Dentist Academy’s suppliers, vendors, affiliates, or subscribers. Be aware that Productive Dentist Academy does not control, makes no guarantees about, and disclaims any express or implied representations or warranties about the accuracy, relevance, completeness, timeliness or appropriateness for a particular purpose of the information or the resources contained on these or any other internet sites.

Further, the inclusion of these links is merely for your convenience and is not intended and does not reflect Productive Dentist Academy’s opinion on the accuracy or the importance of these other sites; further, Productive Dentist Academy does not endorse in any manner any of the views expressed in, or products or services offered by these other sites. All information in any site by Productive Dentist Academy, or associated or linked site, is extracted, read, used, or relied upon by you at your own risk.

Disclaimer of Warranty
Productive Dentist Academy and its suppliers and vendors disclaim all express or implied representations or warranties regarding the information, services, products, materials, and any other resources contained on or accessible through this site, including without limitation any implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose. All information provided by Productive Dentist Academy is made available “as is” and “as available” without warranty of any kind, or any express or implied promise, including, by way of example, its continuing availability.

Limitation of Liability
With respect to products, goods, or services purchased from any entity identified, listed, named or contacted through Productive Dentist Academy’s website, or any links to Productive Dentist Academy’s website, to the maximum extent permitted by applicable law, in no event shall Productive Dentist Academy or its suppliers or vendors be liable for any direct, indirect, special, punitive, incidental, exemplary, contractual, or consequential damages, or any damages whatsoever of any kind, resulting from any loss, which by way of example, includes loss of use, loss of data, loss of profits, business interruption, litigation, or any other pecuniary loss, whether based on breach of contract, tort (including negligence), product liability, or otherwise, arising out of or in any way connected with the use or performance of this site, with the delay or inability to use this site, or with the provision of or failure to make available any information, services, products, materials, or other resources contained on or accessible through this site, even if advised of the possibility of such damages.

You acknowledge and agree that the limitations set forth above are elements of this agreement, and that this site would not be provided to you absent such limitations.

Indemnification
You agree to indemnify, defend, and hold harmless Productive Dentist Academy and its suppliers and vendors from any liability, loss, claim, and expense (including reasonable attorneys’ fees) related to your violation of this agreement or use of this site in any manner. Your use of this site shall constitute your acceptance of the terms of this Agreement, as revised and modified, if any, each time you access this site. Productive Dentist Academy may modify this agreement at any time, and such modifications shall be effective immediately upon posting of the modified agreement.

Miscellaneous
Productive Dentist Academy’s failure to insist upon strict enforcement of any provision(s) of this agreement shall not be construed as a waiver of any provision or right.

This agreement and the resolution of any dispute related to this agreement or this site shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of Washington, without giving effect to any principles or conflicts of law. Any legal action or proceeding between Productive Dentist Academy or its links, suppliers or vendors and you related to this agreement or this site shall be brought exclusively in a state or federal court of competent jurisdiction sitting in Skagit County, Washington.

Copyright
All materials on this website, including the site’s design, layout, and organization, are owned and copyrighted by Productive Dentist Academy or its suppliers or vendors, and are protected by U.S. and international copyrights.

Links
This site contains links to other sites. Productive Dentist Academy is not responsible for the privacy practices of other sites that are linked to us.

Questions
Should you have any questions or concerns regarding Productive Dentist Academy’s Privacy Policy and Terms of Use, please contact us.

Read More About Our Terms of Service and Why It Matters

Search
Search the Website

Use keywords in the search box below to find what you're looking for.

Go to the Top of the Page